posted 10/28/08 01:17 PM

5 ways to fix Zaw's broken pizza

Metblogs Seattle goes to Zaw, mostly likes it:


So would I try it again? Yes, I think I would - but next time I would order in advance and try to get in and out as quickly as possible, because staring at their big ‘zaw this and ‘zaw that menu board will kind of ruin your appetite.

Not sure the writer goes far enough. Our Zaw experience was flawed (fl-Zaw-ed?) enough that we fear for the Seattle start-up's existence. It's not really about Zaw -- it's the concept. Still, we think the problems can be fixed:

  1. Spread the word that customers shouldn't order in person. Call in your order or make it on the Web. Make it part of the marketing. Standing at 15th and Pine waiting 10 to 15 minutes for somebody to put together a pizza that you will still need to cook is silly. It's obvious in retrospect but how many chances does a new biz get?
  2. Make a bigger deal about delivery. Because of the time factor above, doing anything beyond waiting for a Zaw to come to you really reduces the value prop of their offering. This also leverages your ability to deliver beer and wine to the door. It costs $2 more for delivery.
  3. Speaking of price, you're already pushing it. Include delivery in your current prices and drop the fee. Delivery is such an integral part of a positive experience that delivery should be part of the basic price of the pie.
  4. Always have samples. Some people will order and wait because they have nothing better to do or make a spontaneous decision to grab some chow. Give them something yummy when they visit. Your pizza is goooood. Yummmmm.
  5. Make it easier to carry your pizza for those who do come in and pick up. On one hand, I appreciated my small cardboard footprint. But carrying my saran-wrap protected pie on the thin cardboard tray down 15th Ave's busy sidewalks made me wish for a slightly more protective cardboard box. I'll recycle it. Or return it to you. Promise.

 

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a slice perhaps?
Their waiting area is big enough to allow people to enjoy a slice and a soda, but nope, it's not that kind of pizza place. I tried to understand the owner's reasoning for not serving cooked pizza on the spot, but I think it's a conceptual thing. Probably a no oven thing, too. Thus the grand opening pizza cooked outside in a barbecue. And for the coup de grace in my attempt to like their pizza: the darn things sagged through my oven shelf grates before firming up and locking into place. Just another 30-something bucks spent ignoring a thousand years of pizza-making history.
Comment by juan
October 28, 2008
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RE: a slice perhaps?
Yeah, that should totally be #6. Sell slices.

Sorry to rip on an interesting new place but, hey, I'd love to read a list like this about capitolhillseattle.com so I could make things even more rad-er.
Comment by justinc
October 28, 2008
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RE: a slice perhaps?
My pizza fell through the grate, too. Then my friend helped me slide it to the right (back onto a grating rail) and then out (onto the cardboard), and all was saved. So I don't think the flaw is in the pizza being too thin, but in the cooker not being ingenious enough to save food from a simple mistake in oven-loading judgment.
Comment by EmilyP
October 28, 2008
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Haphard setup really
Personally I'm glad it's a no cook facility as we really don't need another fire on the hill. Not only did they block most of the sprikler heads, the emergency exit is being used for storage. Certainly an empty storefront is worse, but they need to make a bit more of an effort to at least look like a real business. Especially with Olives and Anchovies going in accross the street.
Comment by nari
October 28, 2008
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My take on the pie
I loved the pizzas I got, and I would definitely reorder. I guess starting my experience with ordering online set me up for success, but it didn't hurt that the guy who helped me when I came for pick-up was outstandingly gorgeous, and the place had a uniquely modern, clean interior for a pizza place. I contrast this to Piecora's, Mad Pizza, and all the other old stand-bys that are dingy and loud with a jukebox and smell of old grease. Keep on rocking it, 'Zaw.
Comment by EmilyP
October 28, 2008
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my issue with the place...
paying $12-$21 to have a pizza delivered that i have to cook myself. at the very least make the price enticing enough (under $10 max) so that i can't refuse.

personally, if i'm going to cook it myself why not just make it myself? it takes 10 minutes to make pizza dough in a food processor, 15 minutes to let it rise and 5 minutes to make a rustica-style sauce. to me, take-out pizza is a convenience food i buy when i don't want to do anything but eat it.
Comment by zeebleoop
October 28, 2008
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RE: my issue with the place...
For people who are unskilled at cooking, or have little time on a busy day to prepare two pizzas for a gang of friends, and want someone with skill and access to excellent organic fresh ingredients, it's worth the cost.
Comment by EmilyP
October 29, 2008
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need the option
to have it pre-baked... it's that easy.
Comment by menelaus
October 28, 2008
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RE: need the option
Well, if that's the case, then the model is hopelessly broken. I tried to play within the 'pizza in the raw framework' :)
Comment by jseattle
October 28, 2008
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RE: need the option
I was highly suspicious of the take & bake model, but I actually think it works. For one thing, you're guaranteed a hot pie, sliced as you like it . . .
And the whole bike delivery thing is super cute, but would be super difficult with hot pizzas, as far as I can figure.

I'll agree that the price is steep, but it sure is tasty.
And I *love* the online ordering option.

So basically, I agree with jseattle's 1-3. 4 and 5 not so much; I mean, who wants to go to 15th Ave for a sample anyway? And carrying? Why carry when someone's offering to bring it to you on a bike? And they'll even bring you some beer!
Comment by yancy
October 28, 2008
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'zaw
I think the beer/wine is the only thing that'd get me to order delivery. Otherwise, I'd rather just order something baked in a real pizza oven and brought to me hot, than wait 30 minutes or more (with my oven pre-heating) just to then have wait longer while it bakes.

Online ordering is nice if you remember, and then you can stop by on your way home. Otherwise, I don't see what the big deal is in waiting. It's no different from the other take & bake places (like papa murphy's) -- unless it really does take them 15 minutes to prep -- then THAT's the problem!

Definitely agree about a better carrying device. Unlike Papa Murphy's, most people picking from 'zaw will be walking rather than driving, and the extra support would be helpful.
Comment by Daryn
October 29, 2008
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Fairly good pizz...fairly bad price...
My girlfriend and I got a coupon to try some 'Zaw at the Farmer's Market and we were fairly impressed with it (We come from NJ/NYC where pizza is the best..soooo) Two things, the price was a little steep to consider buying it again (I can buy dough at TJs and put my own gourmet toppings on it and have the pleasure of baking it myself for much much cheaper) and the reason why I want to order pizza out is for the flavors that are imparted on a pizza cooked in a brick oven or well seasoned pizza oven. Good look to 'Zaw though, it was a zillion times better than most of the pizza to be had around the Hill.
Comment by Brian
October 29, 2008
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yum!
We ordered it tonight and it arrived by bike for $2 extra. Certainly worth it! Plus, the delivery guy was adorable.
I thought it was really good and very easy to prepare. If you cook it on the wax sheet as instructed I'm not sure how it can fall through the oven grates.
My only complaint was that we didn't have enough. The guy guiding my husband through the ordering process said one pizza is more than enough for two people. We are big pigs and could have easily eaten more.
Comment by robin
October 29, 2008
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bike delivery
hey, in Beijing there are plenty of guys delivering hot pizzas by bike. With the properly insulated container on a rear rack, it is entirely feasible.
Comment by Alaskalainen
October 30, 2008
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We need to drop the McDonald's lifestyle!
Zaw is a new creative approach to food on the go. It's not McDonald's. It's organic, local, and sustainable. This is really the direction we should all be going. It only starts out as spendy until it catches on.

Have we started to notice how QFC has almost the same price point for something mildly healthy?

Just food for thought...
Comment by kussekat
December 02, 2008
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RE: We need to drop the McDonald's lifestyle!
Forgot to add that the difference in price point between QFC and Madison Market isn't that big anymore. And at least Madison Market is trying to help the community and the community members. This is important...
Comment by kussekat
December 02, 2008
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I like it
It's organic, dang tasty, lets me cook it on my schedule and not receive an "old" steamy pizza. It's far better than Dominoes, et al. I ordered on the web and got it within 30 minutes, by bike, Well worth it. I just might start ordering pizza again. . . .
Comment by Brian
December 14, 2008
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