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posted
12/03/08 05:44 PM
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12/03/08 05:49 PM
Hill's most dangerous bike stretch: E. Pine
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You're not accounting for usage.
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You need to divide the number of accidents by the number of cyclists to determine danger (an accident rate). Pine is a very popular bike route, so it's not surprising there are many accidents there. But maybe there are fewer accidents per biker on Pine than elsewhere. |
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December 03, 2008
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RE: You're not accounting for usage.
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Yeah, agreed but impossible to measure except in our minds. So, the one dude who tried to pop a wheelie and failed at Grandview and Garfield makes that the most dangerous place to bike per capita |
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December 03, 2008
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RE: You're not accounting for usage.
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| Hee. Whenever I TA public health students, we always ask an exam question with identical data to test on their understanding of denominators when making statements about the "risk" of something. (Seriously, the PI must recycle this story every year and update the numbers.) | |
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December 03, 2008
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E Pine
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With the dedicated bike lane and many cars turning right to hit the I-5 onramp, I'm not surprised there are more accidents there than elsewhere. There's been too many times in my personal experience where cars just swerve into the bike lane just ahead of me or into the spot where I am (forcing me to abruptly brake or pull off the road entirely) in order to turn. Remember when you're driving to check your mirrors and blind spot before turning. The worst stretch for me is actually 15th, and not because of the cars. More pedestrians jump out from between parked cars from 15th and Republican to 15th and John than any other part of Capitol Hill in my opinion, and I can't recall how many times I've had to yell, ring my bell, or just plain swerve out of the way in order to avoid running them over. |
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December 03, 2008
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Have a look at Aloha
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We've speculated in the past about whether Aloha is a dangerous place to cycle. I've always felt pretty safe there. The map bears me out: http://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2008/12/03/andrew-taylor/b Two accidents: 1 at 23rd, 1 at Broadway, none on the up and downhill sections where you might imagine traffic would be faster and more of a problem. |
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December 03, 2008
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When I used to skate to work..
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| Pine and Boylston used to be where I had all my near-misses. It was mostly cars trying to cross Pine not seeing me or pedestrians expecting me to be to stop while cruising downhill at top speed. | |
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